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Freya Rohn's avatar

what does green want from us. Thank you for sharing your experience in such vivid beautiful detail—i feel like i just got to spend time along the creek-river and in those regenerating spaces too. And this: “What would it take to interact with our world, including the human-built world, in ways that make conservation efforts not obsolete exactly, but increasingly unnecessary? A world where you don’t have to run away to mountains or wildlife refuges to breathe clean air and listen to birds instead of traffic? Where the animals don’t need refuges to survive? Where your caution is around not attracting bears to your camp instead of avoiding the infinite ways humans harm one another?” yes. To imagine is at least a way to move forward on some level—but i constantly think about land management and conservation and what it would be like to know something intrinsic and old about the lands we live on so that we wouldn’t have to cede the care of them to population studies and regulations. It feels like an enormous failure really. But that doesn’t take away from what a beautiful reverie all of this was to read. 💜

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Mike Sowden's avatar

Loved this, and love the calm, contemplative vibe of it.

I wonder about the people who say "this is mine now," about how much time they actually spend in the lands they claim to own - as in, out in the wildness of it, instead of within the human-build structures they've placed within it, or even worse, in a skyscraper hundreds or thousands of miles away. Doesn't immersion teach a lesson about owning? Like those bear tracks, saying, "you think you can ever truly control all this? Look at these paws."

Sometimes I feel like abstraction is the great enemy of the natural world, where we cook up these Sweepingly Grand Ideas and generalise away all the details. A true dumbing-down of the world in the service of unchecked capitalism, where the idea goes to the point of production and someone makes the decision to slam the door on all those inconveniently messy details because they're "impractical".

I worry about this, because I love those Big Ideas! (And write about them.) Who doesn't get excited at such things? But - you also have to leave the door wide open, and let everyone stroll through and present their complications and treat them respectfully (if they're presented respectfully) because that will make your ideas smarter and wiser and more useful. I get how that's hard, but...

But I really feel like a lot of problems can be solved by letting some business-powerful people be truly *in* some parts of the world before they make sweeping ownership decisions about them. Let the land speak to them in all its voices, adding to the argument in ways that often bypass simple language. Close the distance completely and open all the doors wide. I bet it'd help.

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